Going Deeper: How to Be a Better Conversationalist

Ever feel like your conversations stay frustratingly shallow? Like you’re stuck in small-talk limbo, never quite breaking through to something meaningful? You’re not alone. The truth is, most people are missing a few key skills that make the difference between surface-level chatter and real, engaging conversation.

In this episode, we’re breaking down how to go deeper in conversations—how to make people light up, open up, and actually enjoy talking to you. Inspired by Better Small Talk by Patrick King, this episode is packed with practical strategies you can start using today.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

🔹 How to give compliments that actually matter (hint: it’s not about eye color)
🔹 The #1 listening mistake that makes conversations fall flat—and how to fix it
🔹 Why understanding conversation styles can instantly make you a better communicator
🔹 How black-and-white thinking shuts down discussions (and what to do instead)
🔹 How to keep small talk from stalling and create motion in conversation

Whether you’re someone who dreads small talk or you love deep conversations and want to get even better at them, this episode is for you.

PLUS: I’ll be announcing an upcoming workshop on how rhythm and melody shape great conversations—so stay tuned for that!